Nice job, Knicks.

No longer viewed as a franchise-player, the former # 1 overall pick should flourish in a supporting role in New York.

No longer viewed as a franchise-player, the former # 1 overall pick should flourish in a supporting role in New York.

Let’s be honest: 40 years without a title has deprived too many Knick fans of a realistic prism of evaluation. The senses are skewed, the books bogged down for more than a decade with horrific trades and pathetic mid-level signings.

Luckily, thanks to the patient hand of Donnie Walsh they’ve recovered, even though sadly, that has been largely forgotten. 50+ wins and the Atlantic Division crown is a sign that the ice has thawed, and hell is no longer frozen over.  

Title contender? Nope.

Which is why they need to tinker and adjust and move some pieces around the board. They did just that over the weekend agreeing with the Raps on a multi-player deal, one I happen to like very much.

Trust me, they were never getting Rondo with the spare parts they shipped to Toronto. 

Never. Which leads us back to reality.

In evaluating the Knicks-Raptors trade, there are three primary parts to dissect:

1) What did you give up?
2) what did you receive in return?
3) how does the move affect the salary cap moving forward?

Enter, Professor Tierney.

Class is in session, feel free to take notes.


1) Steve Novak is a limited, one-dimensional shooter unable to create space vs aggressive defenses. He was invisible in the playoffs, and is a liability. That will never change. I’m banking on Copeland returning to New York, but even if he doesn’t, Novak was highly expendable.

Advantage: Knicks. 

2) Marcus Camby is completely untrustworthy at this point, and has been for years. Even if he flashes for a week or two, his season will consist of multiple interruptions. Like Novak, Camby too was highly expendable.

Advantage: Knicks.

3) A 1st round pick in 2016 plus a pair 2nd round picks. Firstly, NBA teams can easily recoup 2nd round picks and while they sound good in theory, in terms of practical application, they are virtually useless. Don’t believe me? Let’s rewind, shall we.

2000: Lavor Postell

2001: Michael Wright, Eric Chenowith

2002: Milos Vujanic

2003: Maciej Lampe, Slavko Vranes

2004: Trevor Ariza

2005: Dijon Thompson

2010: Andy Rautins, Landry Fields

2012: Kostas Papanikolaou

What in the world would the Knicks be without those studs? All second rounders, by the way.

As for the 1st round pick, it’s a move with risk, absolutely. However, despite most fans resistance,  I’m OK with this. To get something, you have to part with something. Toronto did the Knicks a favor by taking dead weight with guaranteed money for multiple years off their books. This is a fair exchange.

Advantage: Push.

Andrea Bargnani: I’ll spare everyone the scouting report, because he is what he is, and that’s not going to change. At least not from a skill-set perspective. He’ll never rebound and he’ll never bring an ounce of toughness to the floor. When evaluating Bargnani, however, disregard the vitriol coming from Toronto as he departs. They have a right to feel that way. As a former # 1 overall pick, using that metric, he was an abject failure. What will change with the Knicks, however, is that he will be slotted into a more appealing position: the 3rd or 4th option on offense. He’s 27 years old and should be highly motivated to secure one more decent contract. I like my odds there.

Advantage: Knicks. 

Current and future financial implications:

In the NBA, it's all about managing cap space and eventually being in a position to be in position.

In the NBA, it’s all about managing cap space and eventually being in position to be in position.

Camby was due $7.4 million thru 2014-15 while Novak was on the books for three more seasons totaling roughly $11 million.

Bargnani will make $11 million this upcoming season and $12 million in 2014-15.

The key however, and it is vital in judging this trade, is that the expiration of Bargnani’s deal coincides with the expiration of the rest of the big money the Knicks are currently committed to.

In simpler terms, entering the 2015 season, the Knicks will be staring at a qualifying offer of $3.8 million to Iman Shumpert (may as well sign it now, done deal) and a $4.5 player option of Raymond Felton (plus any draft picks added to the roster).

That equates to less than $10 million dollars.

To summarize, the Knicks gave up nothing, received a skilled player in return and preserved their financial flexibility moving forward. Oh yeah, they also got better in 2013-14.

Advantage: Knicks.

Nice work, Grunwald.

Class dismissed.

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  1. Anonymous

     /  07/01/2013

    and Denver has rights to swap the 1st we traded away.good job BT

  2. Anonymous

     /  07/01/2013

    Good analysis BT

  3. Anonymous

     /  07/01/2013

    Excellent explanation BT!

  4. c dub

     /  07/01/2013

    I agree. Some knicks fans have no sense wanting 2 keep novak I swear bargnani is a better defender than novak all novak did wen he gvot beat was grab te guy and foul lol

  5. bry

     /  07/01/2013

    It’s a treadmill move that does little if anything to improve the team.

    Bad move? Not necessarily.

    Good move? Not even close kiddo. Let the REAL “professor” school ya – it was a go-nowhere panic move that doesn’t change the dynamics of the team in any significant enough way and further proves the teams run by a retard with no patience.

    You DONT give up future 1st’s for duds…EVER.

  6. duh

     /  07/01/2013

    ^ This guy is better than the guy whose name is on the URL.

    And 3rd or 4th option for Bargs? LMAO!

    Who’s the 2nd and 3rd option going to be? Shump? Chandler? Oh wait I know..


    Sad Knicks blogger who can’t see the truth

  7. Thanks for the warning. That’s a course I will not be signing up for this Fall. All good!

  8. Jermaine

     /  07/01/2013

    The Raptors could of got All-Star David Lee for Bargnani, had they wish. There was a reason why they wanted the contracts (Marcus Camby will retire- no cap hit, Q-rich is only guaranteed for a year), a player AS impactful as Bargnani, and picks. You guys have no idea how bad Bargnani is. When you described Steve Novak, I thought you wrote about Bargnani for a second.

    Except you’re paying him 10 million to do what Steve Novak does better (shoot 3’s). Good luck New York, this is Zach Randoplh again.

  9. Bargnani is 5 x’s more talented than Novak, don’t embarrass yourself.

  10. James A.

     /  07/01/2013

    Glad i found this site BT ! We miss u badly in NY brother

  11. Anonymous

     /  07/02/2013

    Nice job BT… Hope you are killing it on the left coast. We miss you on the airwaves here in NY.

  12. damphoose

     /  07/03/2013

    This deal only works if they resign Copeland. I think every NY Knick fan should look up Copeland’s numbers. Less Novak means more Copeland. Novak is considered one of the best three point shooters in the game. Career 43%. Except Copeland shoot 42% last season. Novak shots 44% overall. Copeland shoots 48% overall. They’re both basically forwards who can’t rebound. The difference is Copeland can actually defend his position. I also like that he’s not afraid to waive Melo off when he rolling or when he’s got a man on him he can beat. Anthony calls for the ball when it’s not even his play and too many Knicks just oblige. Too many times in the playoffs teams would shut Melo down and the Knicks just don’t have enough guys who want to take “the shot”. I’s not talking about a game winning shot. I’m talking about the shot that starts a run, or stop one. The Knicks got better in the short term and financially better in the long run.

  13. You’re right, this was an EXCELLENT lesson. In sophistry and self-delusion.

  14. Rt

     /  07/12/2015

    Yo they are still clowning you on Twitter for this no-statistical-analysis, pompous defense of a guy who has no defense.

    Ass dismissed!

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